April Comment Shower Bingo
The state of commenting on podfic is quite different from commenting on fanfic, so anything that helps another comment on a podfic feels like some level of success.
Hi! I don't get this thing or blog much but if we have anonymous fics in a fandom which we do not want any pod fics made of and we do not give blanket permission what's the procedure with that? Thanks!My response:
I don’t get this thing or blog much
“Podfic is an audio recording of fanfic, read aloud by a fan (or several).” - Fanlore page for Podfic. This is a sideblog where I’m poking around at podficcing, or creating podfic.
if we have anonymous fics in a fandom which we do not want any pod fics made of and we do not give blanket permission what's the procedure with that?
Just to cover my bases: In my permission tag, I’ve noted blanket permission, but blanket statements are not limited to providing blanket permission. (See: Blanket Statement.) Off the top of my head, someone provided a blanket no, and at least one person specified that podficcers should reach out and ask for permission for the fic in question, so you don’t have to provide blanket permission or nothing.
To get to your question: It depends on the podficcer, sometimes the fandom (and its particular etiquette), and it might depend on the site. Some podficcers will comment and ask for permission to podfic on an anonymous work, but others might not because they view anonymous works as fair game. As far as I know, ao3 allows the author to still comment or reply while showing up as Anonymous, but this isn’t true for all sites. (For more background on different fandom opinions about permission to podfic, see: Podfic Permission.)
This is just my advice, and there may be others who have different opinions, but I’d suggest putting a blanket statement in your author notes or end notes since you can’t point to a blanket statement in your profile. You don’t have to explain why, and you don’t need to put anything super long.
Suggestions:
Behind The Pod - Series (or Season) 1, Episode 5: Kess. Dated: December 2019.
Summary: Talking about disability and podfic, the podfic community, and podfic as art.
Their experience with CFS [Chronic Fatigue Syndrome] and being able to listen to fic that they could no longer read through the exhaustion and pain. They made a lot of beginner ‘Eh’ podfic and found community. The performance art bit came after talking about listening to Text-to-Speech versions of fic with no emotion. Overall, not what I was expecting from the basic description.
Clarification: There’s nothing wrong with a personal perspective. Based on the description and starting with series or season 2 episodes with multiple people taking part in each episode, I just wasn’t expecting one person’s perspective. While I’ve seen podfic presented as a beneficial accessibility feature for visual text based fic, some podficcers who view podficcing as performance art seem to make stylistic choices that don’t necessarily align with accessibility being the main feature of this type of fanwork.
In a prior Auralphonic episode that touched on the history of a “No Music Included” attitude, there seemed to be a quick jump to people being okay with additional sound tracks and effects once editing skills improved, but that comes across like hearing listeners made that switch. I mean, listeners with auditory processing issues and hard of hearing listeners didn’t just fade away, and to me, the original accessibility question is still there.
Some reading advice has come across like it’s assumed that listeners who want the full text can just go read the fanfic, so info like indicating to and from fields in emails is optional. From the perspective of someone who has done volunteer image descriptions here on tumblr, that seems presumptive about what the audience will find important. I’m not saying it’s wrong to make that choice as a podficcer, but I wouldn’t say that’s keeping accessibility and potential listeners who are blind or visually impaired in mind.
I’ve run into quite a bit of encouragement for nervous beginners about not letting an accent or reading in a non-native/fluent language get in the way of trying to make podfic, so I also thought there might be a mention of podficcers who don’t have a normate voice.
Behind The Pod - Series (or Season) 2, Episode 4: Podficcing on the Periphery. Dated: August 2020.
Summary: Creating podfic in a fandom or part of fandom where podfic is a relative unknown. Discussion points: what to do when no one even thinks about blanket permission, what it's like creating most of the content yourself, and how isolating and discouraging it can be.
AO3 user ~peasina created Pioneer Podfic, a collection for being the first podfic in a fandom.
Behind The Pod - Series (or Season) 2, Episode 5: Podficcers of Color Roundtable. Dated: August 2020.
Summary: In this episode, the panel introduces two new members, dance and Luna, and discusses how they feel being a person of color impacts their work as podficcers and how they experience podfic fandom. They also discuss how world events are impacting discussions of racism in society and in fandom, and examples of anti-racism work in podfic fandom. In addition, they address talkbacks from the previous roundtable and discuss some who's and how's of creating for CoC in podfic fandom. Finally, they discuss recs for podfics about CoC and/or by podficcers of color.
Don’t be afraid of reading a CoC focused fic as a non-PoC podficcer. (It’s not up to podficcers of color to try to read everything, y’know?) Depending on the character, you can do research like doing so for other accents and languages, but non-Black podficcers should avoid ‘blaccent’ or a caricature of AAVE.
Behind The Pod - Series (or Season) 1, Party Favour: Podficcers of Color Roundtable. Dated: December 2019.
Summary: Podficcers discuss how being people of color impacts their work as podficcers and how they experience podfic fandom, as well as the strengths and pitfalls of how podfic fandom handles characters of color (CoC) & stories about CoC. Also includes discussions about how to raise the profile of podfics about CoC in fandom and podfic recs! [Fan of color = FoC]
While different responders have done popular white M/M fic, several make a point of prioritizing CoC fic in their To Podfic list. The lack of a ‘visible’ race on the internet can be erasing (queer fic tends to be white, which can create distance for queer FoC), but it can also provide a more level playing field in some situations (compared to conventions and in-person fannish spaces with more white fans than FoC attending). Podfic Fandom can trend more international, which makes sharing being a podficcer of color feel different to sharing being a FoC in a particular fandom space. (Not really better or worse; different.)
Podfic Fandom has recently seemed a little more aware of needing to focus on CoC in challenges (drew comparison to femslash challenges needing to focus on women, in reaction to M/M popularity). Jazz also writes fanfic, so she makes a point of trying to pick up prompts for CoC [so there’s more CoC focused fic that can be podficced]. For some responders, it also depends on the fandom and writing tropes that pop-up in fic with CoC versus what podficcers focus on. Examples: Sam Wilson hasn’t been written well in MCU stuff (started with Stucky focus way back), but there was a challenge about Marvel CoC. Star Wars writers focus on Reylo, but there are podficcers who have made a point to focus on Finn and other CoC.
[One responder brought up in relation to wanting a WoC challenge that Black History Month is in October in the UK, so international challenges don’t have to feel restricted to what American observances do. It was in relation to a certain femslash challenge being in February already, which is when Americans observe Black History Month.]
Auralphonic Episode 36: How We Choose What to Podfic. Dated: January 2018.
Various reasons: Drawn to certain authors (writing style), or permission factors in (waiting for replies vs blanket permission [BP] and mostly relying on FPS List). [FPS List = Fanworks Permission List organizes Fanlore’s BP page by fandom.] Some people have done a lot of outreach with particular fandoms. Pod farr (riff on pon farr from Star Trek), or the excitement of needing to record Right Now. Changes in when you can record and how long you can record (f’ex, one host can’t record for more than one hour at a time these days). Personal reasons (only read below a certain word count, liking certain tropes, doing different voices, etc.). The one host makes a point of doing relatively short podfic that match environmental factors (f’ex, it’s raining where you are, so you do a fic that involves rain).
You don’t always love the fic you read, though. Challenges can have requirements (Podbang, ITPE (Informal Twitter Podfic Exchange), Podfic Bingo, Amplificathon, etc.). Some collaborative challenges may involve working with other podficcers and cross fandoms. Some charity exchanges [listeners donate to XYZ, podficcers will read certain requested fandoms and such] also might not be what you like (or even be a fandom you’re in, officially speaking).
Auralphonic Episode 28: How Platforms Affect Podfic. Dated: April 2017.
I ignored the LiveJournal stuff at the beginning, tbh, but there’s a tie-in with the one host’s vidding experience and YouTube. My Little Pony podficcers are on YT, but more communities that the hosts can think of don’t tend to use YT (including copyright issues, especially for those who include music).
Through trial and error, Tumblr has an upload limit around 10 - 15 MB, which probably can’t handle more than a 10 - 15 minute podfic. Most people don’t host solely on tumblr because it seems more based around songs than podfic itself.
The bit about Flash isn’t true for AO3 anymore (episode is from 2017, and the phasing out of Flash happened in 2020). This platform has affected where some people choose to host (so they can easily post to AO3), coming up with podfic posting stuff ([Podfic] Title), and what they include (some read the content warnings).
Auralphonic Episode 27: Podfic Permission. Dated: March 2017.
I’m rather late to some of the controversy around whether it’s a requirement or a courtesy to get permission from fanfic authors [see also: Podfic Permission], especially when certain fandoms have different etiquette around this [references episode 26 about My Little Pony where fans do not get or expect permission to podfic]. For people who don’t list permission in their AO3 profile, you can check the Fanlore pages Blanket Permission to Podfic and Blanket No to Podfic where lists of users have already been compiled.
From Episode 36: FPS List = Fanworks Permission List organizes Fanlore’s BP page by fandom.
> About Podfic and Comprehensive Guides
> Choose what to record and Blanket Permission
> Recording
> Editing
> Posting (and Hosting)
> Sound Effects
> Music
> Cover Art
> AO3 Works Skins
> Supporting Podficcers
> Podfic Events
> Other Resources